| Len's cousin
The man who squealed to the KGB
But what I am trying to tell you... After the war, I forgot about this incident a long time ago, because you don’t pay any attention to these little things, about the boy who brought [?] the KGB man, because, to go to the KGB man in the first place, it was not a very honorable thing to do.
Len: [inaudible]
M: Oh, sure. We tried to stay away from them, you know. It turned out that he was a smart man. He wasn’t as bad as we thought he would be. He was a real smart man. He used to stick up for us, provided you stood in line and you didn’t get out of line.
But, in 1946, I was in Germany, in Ulm. Ulm was the place where actually Albert Einstein was born. And there was a Jewish camp. And I was in Ulm, and I was going to see someone from our home town that lived there. And all of a sudden I saw someone from the back, and it dawned on me that I know the guy. And I went around to make sure to see him in the face. And as soon he [saw] me, he started sort of like running away. And then i caught on right away, “By golly, I forgot it, but he remembers it.”
You see, he was afraid. It happened to a lot of cases.
Len: Who was it?
M: The man who squealed to the KGB man. You see, what it happened was a lot of times, after the war, we used to catch people who were accused of collaborating with the Germans or with the Russians, and we used to put them up in a court. And he was afraid, like, for the bad publicity. As a matter of fact, he was a policeman in the camp, and [several words inaudible] a policeman’s uniform.
And I got around to him, and I called him, and I said, “Hey, what are you running from? Don’t you know me?” And he started to sort of like, you know, to stutter, like he was awful excited. I said, “Don’t worry about it. I forgot about it a long time ago.”
He says, “Oh, you remember.” And he started to say, “You know, we were all under pressure. I didn’t know what I was doing.”
I said, “You didn’t do anything wrong. It turned out that we were both wrong,” I said. “We both didn’t get around. [sic] What are you worrying about?” But he was really scared, the guy. But, really, it didn’t mean a thing.
But there were some people that were really with them, you know. There were a lot of bad cases.
L & Sonia: [inaudible]
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